The Empire Spreads Anew, Plus Timothy McVeigh Was a Devout Jew
No, Timothy McVeigh isn't Jewish. He was an agnostic, but it should be just as important to know that he's not an Irish Catholic Christian terrorist as it is to know that he was not a Jewish terrorist. If I had posted as a title that he was a Christian terrorist, most would think it was true and no one would care that it's not true. The right would care, and actually run with it. The left should too. We should stop using him as an example of a Christian terrorist. Use Eric Rudolph.
I got depressed this week because after the Fort Hood Massacre, I had to drive a thousand miles in one day. I played my own music on the way to Mississippi, but on the way back, I allowed myself to listen to right wing media, and I couldn't believe they are still calling Obama a Muslim and that he had an Islamic upbringing in a Madrasah, which only means school. According to Wikipedia, Madrasah aamah translates as "public school". Madrasah khāṣah translates as "private school". Madrasah dīniyyah translates as "religious school". Madrasah Islamiyyah translates as "Islamic school". Madrasah Jami'ah translates as "university". But who needs facts like that in the GOP.
I won't go too deeply into the Fort Hood, but it brought out the stupid in the GOP. I can't even begin to to discuss all the blatant bigotry and stupidity I've heard since the incident. It's like they are looking for any excuse to behave in an unamerican way.
I got depressed this week because after the Fort Hood Massacre, I had to drive a thousand miles in one day. I played my own music on the way to Mississippi, but on the way back, I allowed myself to listen to right wing media, and I couldn't believe they are still calling Obama a Muslim and that he had an Islamic upbringing in a Madrasah, which only means school. According to Wikipedia, Madrasah aamah translates as "public school". Madrasah khāṣah translates as "private school". Madrasah dīniyyah translates as "religious school". Madrasah Islamiyyah translates as "Islamic school". Madrasah Jami'ah translates as "university". But who needs facts like that in the GOP.
I won't go too deeply into the Fort Hood, but it brought out the stupid in the GOP. I can't even begin to to discuss all the blatant bigotry and stupidity I've heard since the incident. It's like they are looking for any excuse to behave in an unamerican way.
Pardon my microphone stand and my creaky chair. Lotta noise. And I don't know when my foot or whatever it was was touching my mic stand, but it sure did it a lot.
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Hi Jeff, long time..but I feel your anguish with these GOP people..I really just had a glance at some of the signs that have been carried at some of these tea parties and I am livid and disgusted and also depressed and well..scared for what is going to happen next. I mean it seems like the racists/bigots are out in full force and they may become violent.
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Jeff...
I share your frustration. That was a heavy hitting podcast. But we needed it.
Your analogy to the Borg of Star Trek is a good one. You repeatedly used the meme, "Resistance is futile".
But never forget that in Star Trek, when threatened by the Bork... ...The Federation never failed to fight back anyway. In the end, that fight was not so futile at all.
Be strong. There is a lot of people here in this fox hole of ours. They're not going anywhere. Neither am I.
- Joe
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Timothy was not agnostic. He was a kind of deist. In his interview with TIMES, check it out for yourself: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,109478,00.html Where did u get your information where he denied religion?
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Timothy was not agnostic. He was a kind of deist. In his interview with TIMES, check it out for yourself: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,109478,00.html Where did u get your information where he was agnostic or not sure if he believed?
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I got it from his own mouth in his 60 Minutes interview. He was confronted with the logic that God would not approve of this. How did he think God did he think God would approve of such an act? McVeigh replied simply that he didn't believe in God. It wasn't a religious act. It was political. Plain and simple. And the interview moved on. I do not understand why this is lost to history but burned in my mind. Even articles that make my own argument fail to cite 60 minutes, and the snippets of the 60 minutes interview I've found don't include religion. My wife and I made sure that we watched it live and we were very relieved that this could not be blamed on religion. Yet here we are and it's being blamed on religion. This isn't something I barely remember. It's an important checkpoint point in my life.
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Throughout his childhood, he and his father were Roman Catholics and often attended daily Mass. In a recorded interview with Time magazine[14] McVeigh professed his belief in "a God", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs." The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic.[15] McVeigh at one time said that he believed the universe was guided by natural law, energized by some universal higher power that showed each person right from wrong if they paid attention to what was going on inside them. He had also said, "Science is my religion."[16]
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That was an inspiring post,
This is a great piece of audio,
Keep up the good work
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